In the last several months, my longtime patron deity has guided me through the first steps of acknowledging two others that I now know had been hovering for my attention but that I had, because of my own issues, ignored. One of these deities is still content with the basic acknowledgment I've given Him but the other is... a bit more insistent and wants more of my attention.Primarily through tracking down the right kind of music.It started with me chasing musical instruments around the Internet trying to find the sound I kept hearing in my head and while He at first kept pointing me towards only the lyre, the zither is pinging more strongly - a fact that He accepts because it makes sense considering who my patron is and how She's always communicated with me. That said, He still wants me to have the lyre music in my collection even if I'm simply not ready to go as far as He eventually wants me to (which He knows and is okay with for right now). Unfortunately, my Google-fu is honestly failing me right now, not the least because I've simply never gone searching for this kind of thing so I keep getting things that include techno music and synthesizers.Basically, I'm looking for ancient Greek music played on the lyre or similar instruments that I can hopefully buy/download without much trouble and I have no idea where to look. I'm even having a hard time finding good quality recordings of some of the hymns, which is extraordinarily frustrating. Beyond that, any advice on finding basic, hopefully older pieces performed on lyres or zithers without any modern embellishments would take a lot of annoyance and frustration off my back.Again, at my wit's end and any help would be appreciated, as I'm sure my frustration is coming through in this post.
Hey all. I saw this video many many years ago when I was little, searched for it for ages on the internet to no avail... then suddenly it pops up for free download on a teaching website! The last time I ever saw it on TV was in Spannish so it's nice to have it again.Thought I would share for anyone who wants to see:http://www.sendspace.com/file/47or26Interested to see what you think of it!
HI, two things that might interest you: http://www.neosalexandria.org/zeus_devotional.htm http://www.neosalexandria.org/dioskouroi_devotional.htm
I have been a pagan for going on twenty years, but it's only been the past several that I have been exploring truly polytheistic worship. I'm wondering if any of you would be willing to share your insights on something that has confounded me. As Hellenic Pagans, I assume that means there is a host of deities with whom you have, in theory, an on-going relationship. Not to say that each person will have an active relationship with every god... but presumably there is more than one at a time that you can approach, honor, and so forth. My question is: when you choose to honor/approach/pray to one god, do you ever feel that you are slighting another? That you are showing a preference or even insulting one deity by choosing to address another? The more I begin to think of spirituality in polytheistic terms (rather than abstract, eclectic terms), the more I become concerned with this, and I feel it most keenly when it comes to the Hellenic gods - I think because so much of what I understand about Them comes from common literature, which is all about the personalities and big on the capriciousness of the gods - so I thought this might be a good place to address the question.Please note I've been trying very hard to phrase this question so as to not seem like an irresponsible or irreverant eclectic - I assure that's not the case! I just can't figure out how to ask so I'm going to hit post and hope you can help. ;)
Went to Budapest last week and saw one of the sights I only knew about after flicking through a tourism book and seeing it in a tiny picture...A statue of Hermes! Okay, it also has a water fountain at the bottom, but I wasn't about to complain. It also actually had "Hermes" at the base, rather than Mercury, which I was chuffed about...So I just thought it'd be nice to share the pictures.http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2329505&l=feaab5107e&id=737301546http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2329532&l=bfef51984e&id=737301546http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2329533&l=776d6d30b6&id=737301546 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2329534&l=c2ccb4cb72&id=737301546http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2329535&l=eba68aa9fd&id=737301546I love how it looks like he's got veins on this picture... which may be weird, I didn't even notice till I downloaded them.He's placed on the main commerical street of their city.Hope this doesn't count as spam...
I posted this at another community, too, so sorry if you see it twice. I just felt this seemed an appropriate venue to ask in.I was just wondering how many of you are involved in fairly serious magic(k)al practice, and how many of you are led through by Persephone? Once upon a time I did a fair amount of personal magic(k)al practice (not led through or headed by any deity in particular, and not all focused on one thing, but rather smaller things that needed addressing at whatever given time), but then I fell out of it. Over the past year or so I've felt like I need to start again, and even more recently Persephone rather smacked me over the head and let me know that She's the one I will be answering to in regards to it (I've always felt a thread to Her, but I never realized that this would be why). The only other thing I know so far is that the first part of it is going to be very self-focused and very self-transformational, and that as a whole it's going to be very much a journey. Where do I go from here? I really don't know where to start.Edit: Apparently, I should make it clear that Persephone is already a part of my regular religious practice, and already receives offerings from me and is part of my research and study, and has been since I was about 11. I am also getting married later this year, and She is on my personal list of deities to specifically honor and find marriage offerings for, and I've been involved in ritual practice (when I was younger and involved in non-specific pagan groups) where I've been the one asked to invoke Her, so we've already a working ritual basis with each other. She is not my patron, and I'm certain She's not asking for that type of relationship at this point--currently, that domain belongs exclusively to Athena (and has for years...and Athena is not shy of making certain I know that).
Hey folks...I've had this song kicking around my ipod for a few months now, but was just listening to it last night have had it stuck on repeat with a few other songs, I just can't stop listening to it, I thought I would share. The song is Mercury by Heidi Berry. I wish she had a sound clip on her website that I could link to, but there's none. (If anyone here subscribes to emusic, that's where I found the song)Here, at least are the lyrics:MercuryI walk through the graveyard and a late snow is on the groundThe bones lying underneath the ivyBlack crow flies high, his shadow moves across the stonesThe snow that melts my footprint melts awayI turn from the West gate and look to the eastI will await the coming dawn to welcome the traveller homeI wonder if you hear me singing softly to myselfAnd I wonder do you recognise the tuneAnd times I've been so lonely for another human soundI have cried and shouted to myselfI turn from the West gate and look to the eastI will await the coming dawn to welcome the traveller homeDawn to dusk and dust to dust and days of mercuryIn my mind's eye the time goes by is set like a crystalAt the end of the year the days grow dim, I feel the time go byBut you can't hold on to mercury.You turn from the West gate and you look to the eastWhile earth awaits the coming dawnTo welcome the traveller homeUnfortunately, just reading the lyrics does the song no justice. I don't generally listen to anything quite as folksy as this, but I don't think I could imagine this one any way besides what it is. Like I said, kinda folksy, vaguely reminiscent of some Celtic music. Her voice is low and a little sad, kinda wistful. It's been a while since a song really grabbed me like this and I couldn't not share it with others that might be interested.ETA: I've been informed that this song is available on iTunes, so if you've got it, you can hear a clip there.
I just sent the message below to various Hellenic email lists. There may also be some interested folks in this lj group who are not on the other lists. I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in forming a Heifer International team devoted to charitable contributions in the name of polytheistic religions. Heifer is a charity that gives livestock (as an economic base) to the needy in developing countries. Those who receive such aid agree to help others by passing on livestock offspring and knowledge. What makes Heifer particularly suited to polytheistic religions with a tradition of sacrifice is that you can choose which type of animal you give (chicks, goat, pig, cow, water buffalo, etc.). This means you can offer an animal appropriate to the deity or festival you are currently honoring, as a modern form of sacrifice. For example, in an Eleusinian Mysteries rite you might offer a small store-bought ham to Demeter and Kore during the rite, then go home and offer by a live pig by donating through Heifer. In this way, you can honor the ancient tradition of animal sacrifice in a modern way, while making a concrete contribution to world welfare, all in the name of the gods. This is something that some polytheists already do individually through Heifer. The benefits of donating together as a team, as I see them, would include: *mutual encouragement *donating in the name of the gods (rather than only in our own names) *coordination - making it possible to give a full animal between a group of fellows, even if each individual can only afford a share--which is much more satisfying in a ritual than saying "Here, Zeus, take this offering of 1/10th of a cow, since I'm kinda broke." *raising awareness and generating good PR for our religions - insofar as a team would be more visible, and charitable giving is respected even among those who do not share our ways I have already created a team, as a test, that can serve as a beginning or as an example for what we could begin. It's called Gifts to the Gods. To find it, go to www.heifer.org. Click Give > Team Heifer > Find a Team, and then enter my full name: Brandon Newberg. You should then be given a link to my Gifts to the Gods home page. There are other options than the way I have set this up. For example, it might be possible to have different teams for different deities, etc. At the moment I am posting to various Hellenic groups, as these are the contacts I have and sacrifice plays a significant part in much modern Hellenic worship. Whether this will stay within the Hellenic community or not is yet to be decided. Please let me know if you are interested in this. Or, if you think it's not such a great idea, let me know that too. I'm trying to find out if this team idea will garner enough interest to merit its doing. And by the way, even if you'd rather not be part of a team, please check out Heifer International and consider donating. Thanks. ;-)
Every year we do our family portraits in costume because I hate hate HATE boring 'everyone smile' pictures. This year, in accordance with MY wishes, we did the Greek Gods (Hubby is Asatru so someday down the line it'll be the Norse Gods I'm sure!). This is the fifth year we've done this and I make all the costumes and prop. Please enjoy! May the gods be with you! Please click on each picture if you want to see the close up.( I begin to sing of Demeter, the holy goddess with the beautiful hair...I will tell of Dionysus, the son of glorious Semele, how he appeared on a jutting headland by the shore of the fruitless sea...Eris whose wrath is relentless, she is the sister and companion of murderous Ares...Now the gods at the side of Zeus were sitting in council over the golden floor, and among them the goddess Hebe (Youth) poured them nectar as wineCollapse )
Greetings! Does anyone have any advice on where I might be able to find a nice (but affordable) statue/sculpture/figure of Apollo? I would really love to find one in person (I live in North Carolina, so if anyone happens to know of any stores in the area to look at, that would be great!), but online stores would be fine as well if I could find the right statue. Thank you so much for any advice!
I celebrate the Kronia during Labor Day weekend for a few reasons - 1. It's closer to the date when the grain is harvested where I live2. Labor Day is already a holiday that celebrates workers getting time off to have a big party with family and friends.3. I attend DragonCon (A sci-fi and fantasy convention) - and let me tell you - normal social restraints are temporarily forgotten there!So....Tomorrow through Monday I'll be celebrating the Kronia in Atlanta with some of my good friends. http://persephones.250free.com/kronia.html(Link to info about the Kronia)
I am happy to announce the release of the second edition of my book, Kharis: Hellenic Polytheism Explored. The first edition was printed via Cafepress four years ago, and I wanted to publish a more professional version now that the technology was more readily available. While I was doing that, I decided to include an updated Hellenic pagan survey, incorporate a few recent articles I've written, and make several smaller changes, updates and additions. You can visit the website for the book (including a Table of Contents) here: http://www.winterscapes.com/kharis/And buy it either via CreateSpace: https://www.createspace.com/Customer/EStore.do?id=3344165Or Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Kharis-Sarah-Kate-Istra-Winter/dp/143823192X/I will be donating 20% of the proceeds from this book to Survival International, a charitable organization working to protect tribal peoples around the world.For those unfamiliar with my book, here's the blurb:
"Historia magistra vitae", so Cicero defines history in his "De oratore". History, the memory of past events and processes as a warning for the future.Those who want today define themselves pagan or link themselves back to old religions, can’t ignore the history they are making their own. As we can’t pretend that nothing has changed and create an utopia of past revival by deleting the historical distance between us and the ancient ones, since the essence of pagan religio is also to live it in everyday life, so we can’t ignore that distance, avoiding looking at the past, and so risking of repeating the same errors.The memory, above all memory of past obstacles, is something fundamental and we absolutely can’t pretend not to see slaughterings and destructions occurred to pagan people during history. A pagan person who wants to call him/herself in this way can’t believe that an excuse is enough to rub off the dust of temples destroyed by Constance and his successors, the blood of Saxons exterminated by Charlemagne, the ashes of witches burnt on a stake. And s/he can’t also bear that this happens in society in which s/he lives.To look for and to give knowledge of these facts: this is the aim of this proposal of a European Pagan Memory Day, a day in which we can remember horrors in order to not forget them. But also a day in which celebrate the rebirth of paganism, because if there is a Pagan Memory Day, there are Pagan people who remember.So we need to choose a date that all groups across Europe can celebrate, with actions of divulgation above all, and with rites that everyone feel to. Maybe it’s possible to institute a date for every European country, fixing a significant date for each, and it’s desirable that each country really does this. But I want to propose a common date, that can be considered significant in the process leading to the annihilation of paganism in Europe, process that lasted, starting from this date even though it began much earlier, almost one thousand year. This date is the 24th February: it was the year 391 e.v. and in this day was enacted Theodosius’ edict which forbade all forms of cult and even to look at statues. Other edicts were enacted the same year, but what is most important of all, and that made me choose this day, is that in that year Vesta’s fire was set off in Rome’s temple. A sign of the obscurantism that started under Constantine and was destined to spread until its triumph in 1386 e.v., the year of official conversion of Lithuania, last pagan country in Europe; eleven years ago, last Hierophant of Eleusi had already announced it.The institution of an European Pagan Memory Day is therefore important for reconstruction of paganism that must be done over the ashes, still hot, of what remains of ancient paganism. Agree to this initiative by signing the online petition and spreading knowledge about these fact and about paganism.
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i have been so frustrated with myself lately because i have been having such a hard time meeting with the gods. i have been trying to call on Aphrodite for days and all i've gotten is a very faint 'presence' if anything, which is gone in a second.can anyone share with me methods they have used to focus on meeting with the gods? i'm really ashamed to ask this question, because Aphrodite is my patron and i have been desperately needing her guidance lately...also, any thoughts on why this "distance" might be happening?
The Prometheia - although there was a small festival in Athens by that name, date unknown, this is a more MODERN Festival.http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Prometheia.html This was one of 5 torch race celebrations that took place in and around Athens.********************************************* I take the time to give thanks to Prometheus in His role as Friend to Man and to Helios who is at the Zenith of His strength for the year.The celebration is about thanking Prometheus for His gift of fire to man (and Helios' role in that)* and Prometheus' gift of how sacrifices are portioned out** between man and the Gods. I celebrate it as a "fun" festival. Time to feast out in the sunshine. In the morning, I start the first fire using Helios' rays (directing them with a magnifying glass onto dried fennel fluff)and use that to light a lamp - from which all other fires and candles will be lit. At that time a libation will be poured to Helios, thanking Him for His role in giving humans the gift of fire.*Since I have to work tomorrow, I'll light candles around my office. I have a small hurricane candle holder that I can use to transport a small tea light to work to light the other candles.In the evening (when I get home) Libations to Prometheus, Athena (pottery), and Hephaestus(the forge)are poured. I make a formal sacrifice to all the Gods, giving them the fat, bones, and gristle and we have the rest - but I save the liver for Prometheus***. There is plenty of food this time of year so put it on a stick and grill it over a fire. I even grill the fruit and note how it is sweeter. Fennel is also something to be sure to grill**** - and it is perfect at this time of year (at least it is here) At dusk I'll get the bonfire and torches in my garden going. Then the husband and I will toast marshmallows and sip on some honey-wine. SOURCESHesiod Theogony lines 507-616 and Aeschylus Prometheus Bound* On His arrival in Olympus, Prometheus lighted a torch at the fiery chariot of the Sun which presently broke from it a fragment of glowing charcoal, which he thrust into the pithy hollow of a giant fennel-stalk. Then, extinguishing his torch, he stole away, and gave fire to mankind. ** At Sicyon, a sacrificial meal marking the "settling of accounts" between mortals and immortals, Prometheus played a trick against Zeus. He placed two sacrificial offerings before the Olympian: a selection of bull meat hidden inside an ox's stomach (nourishment hidden inside a displeasing exterior), and the bull's bones wrapped completely in "glistening fat" (something inedible hidden inside a pleasing exterior). Zeus chose the latter, setting a precedent for future sacrifices; henceforth, humans would keep the meat for themselves and burn the bones wrapped in fat as an offering to the gods.*** Prometheus, in eternal punishment, is chained to a rock in the Caucasus, where his liver is eaten daily by an eagle, only to be regenerated, due to his immortality, by night . Years later the Greek hero Heracles would shoot the eagle and free Prometheus from his chains. **** On His arrival in Olympus, Prometheus lighted a torch at the fiery chariot of the Sun which presently broke from it a fragment of glowing charcoal, which he thrust into the pithy hollow of a giant fennel-stalk. Then, extinguishing his torch, he stole away, and gave fire to mankind.OTHER NOTEShttp://forum.stirpes.net/graeco-roman/4493-prometheia-2005-photos-biggest-hellenic-ritual.htmlThis is celebrated by YSEE as a 3 day festival around the Summer Solstice and had about 2500 people celebrating it. I also celebrate it and celebrate Hector's wonderful Heliogenna festival. http://home.earthlink.net/~heliogenna/page21/page25/page25.htmlHector celebrates the Lampontashttp://home.earthlink.net/~heliogenna/page31/page31.html
have any of you ever worshipped nymphs? i'm really quite curious as there seems to be a more formal focus on the olympians around here.i do personally but i'm really interested to hear methods that others use :)
hi there and hello.call me Sage =)...this is quite the informal introduction but i'm not good at them anyway, so i'll just skip along to the point of the post.anyone have any really good books about the Greek Religion that they've read and would recommend? any and all would be great - i don't mind reading through 15 different books.thanks in advance.
just some questions for anyone who feels they have answers:is there any point in asking Aphrodite for a particular gift in love, or do you think nothing will change her plans? does she have plans at all?what portion of our issues in love are of her influence? all? or just some here and there?do you believe she has picked soulmates for every one of us?and who does she toy with; only those who believe and worship her, or any mortals who strike her fancy?